{"id":45,"date":"2012-05-03T21:55:33","date_gmt":"2012-05-03T21:55:33","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/pbthomas.com\/thoughts\/?p=45"},"modified":"2012-05-03T21:55:33","modified_gmt":"2012-05-03T21:55:33","slug":"where-does-god-fit-in","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/pbthomas.com\/thoughts\/?p=45","title":{"rendered":"Where does God fit in?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"dslc-theme-content\"><div id=\"dslc-theme-content-inner\"><span itemprop=\"description\"><p><font size=\"3\" face=\"Times New Roman\"><\/p>\n<p><\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 6pt;\" class=\"MsoNormal\"><font size=\"3\"><font face=\"Calibri\">A.W.Tozer wrote: \u201cIf God had taken His Holy Spirit out of<br \/>\nthe Early Church, 95% of the activity would have stopped and everybody would<br \/>\nhave noticed the difference. If God were to take His Holy Spirit out of the<br \/>\nchurch today, 95% of the activity would go on as before and nobody would notice<br \/>\nthe difference?\u201d <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = \"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office\" \/><o:p><\/o:p><\/font><\/font><\/p>\n<p><font size=\"3\" face=\"Times New Roman\"><\/p>\n<p><\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 6pt;\" class=\"MsoNormal\"><font size=\"3\"><font face=\"Calibri\">Perhaps God already <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = \"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags\" \/><st1:stockticker w:st=\"on\">HAS<\/st1:stockticker><br \/>\ntaken His Spirit out of the church \u2013 but we just haven\u2019t noticed yet! In the<br \/>\nactivities of our churches, and in our own lives as ministers, we see lots of enthusiasm<br \/>\nand hard work. But looking more closely it can be humbling to ask, \u201cWhere does<br \/>\nGod fit in?\u201d<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">&nbsp; <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/font><\/font><\/p>\n<p><font size=\"3\" face=\"Times New Roman\"><\/p>\n<p><\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 6pt;\" class=\"MsoNormal\"><font size=\"3\"><font face=\"Calibri\">I want to stress that these questions come from 25 years in<br \/>\nministry and experiences in Mission Consultancy, Mentoring and discussions at<br \/>\nMinisters\u2019 Fellowships in various places. I am delighted to say that these are<br \/>\nNOT issues which challenge the church at North Springfield \u2013 which makes a<br \/>\nrefreshing change from other places.<o:p><\/o:p><\/font><\/font><\/p>\n<p><font size=\"3\" face=\"Times New Roman\"><\/p>\n<p><\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 6pt;\" class=\"MsoNormal\"><font size=\"3\"><font face=\"Calibri\">Worship is supposed to be a dynamic encounter with the<br \/>\nLiving God. We could be very depressed if we reflected honestly on how rarely<br \/>\nour people meet with God in our services. How rarely they are overwhelmed by<br \/>\nHis love and joy and peace. How rarely they learn something from our preaching<br \/>\n(or indeed in Home Groups, or personal devotions, if they still do these) which<br \/>\ntransforms their lives or brings them even a little bit closer to Jesus. On an<br \/>\naverage week, where does God fit in to our worship? <o:p><\/o:p><\/font><\/font><\/p>\n<p><font size=\"3\" face=\"Times New Roman\"><\/p>\n<p><\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 6pt;\" class=\"MsoNormal\"><font face=\"Calibri\"><font size=\"3\">The Early Church didn\u2019t have a \u201cstrategy\u201d for outreach or<br \/>\nevangelism. In the words of Bishop Lesslie Newbigin, the primary witness of the<br \/>\nEarly Church was the work of the Holy Spirit, in signs and wonders, miracles of<br \/>\nhealing and deliverance, in prophetic messages and dreams and visions, in<br \/>\ntransformed lives and sacrificial love. God the Holy Spirit moved, everybody<br \/>\nwanted to know, \u201cHow did that happen?\u201d<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">&nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span>And the Christians\u2019 response was, \u201cGod did that!\u201d Today we have so many<br \/>\nprogrammes for outreach (I have used some and I have written my own too) but,<br \/>\nreally, where does God fit in to our outreach?<o:p><\/o:p><\/font><\/font><\/p>\n<p><font size=\"3\" face=\"Times New Roman\"><\/p>\n<p><\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 6pt;\" class=\"MsoNormal\"><font size=\"3\"><font face=\"Calibri\">In the process of recognition of a call to ministry, in<br \/>\ntraining for ministry, in the process of Mentoring for Newly Accredited<br \/>\nMinisters, in patterns of appraisal and \u201cContinuing Professional Development\u201d,<br \/>\nthe emphasis is almost entirely on knowledge and understanding and skills<br \/>\nuseful in ministry. Qualities of holiness, spirituality, prayerfulness and<br \/>\npassion for God are undervalued and in some situations even regarded as<br \/>\nsuspicious! From day to day, where does God fit in to our calling and practice of<br \/>\nministry?<o:p><\/o:p><\/font><\/font><\/p>\n<p><font size=\"3\" face=\"Times New Roman\"><\/p>\n<p><\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 6pt;\" class=\"MsoNormal\"><font face=\"Calibri\"><font size=\"3\">Deacons (and Elders if appointed) are supposed to be the<br \/>\nspiritual core of the church. But in these days Deacons must bear<br \/>\nresponsibilities as Managing Trustees under Charity Law and as Employers under<br \/>\nemployment and pension law. They must navigate Health and Safety, Child<br \/>\nProtection and countless other legal minefields. In many churches some of the<br \/>\nmore prayerful and holy people refuse to stand as Deacons, so the church ends<br \/>\nup being led by managers. In some churches such \u201cleaders\u201d are conspicuously<br \/>\nabsent on the days of prayer and nights of prayer. They never lead worship or<br \/>\npreach \u2013 they just make the legal and financial decisions which define and<br \/>\nconstrain the activities and the direction of the church. Somebody said that \u201ca<br \/>\nchurch will never rise above the spirituality of its leadership.\u201d In some<br \/>\nchurches the Spirit is being strangled by regulation and red tape.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">&nbsp; <\/span>Where does God fit in to our leadership<br \/>\nmeetings? <o:p><\/o:p><\/font><\/font><\/p>\n<p><font size=\"3\" face=\"Times New Roman\"><\/p>\n<p><\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 6pt;\" class=\"MsoNormal\"><font face=\"Calibri\"><font size=\"3\">God should be at the centre of everything we are and<br \/>\neverything we do as believers and as churches. Nowhere should this be more<br \/>\napparent than in our prayer lives, individually and corporately. In fact in<br \/>\nmany churches, prayer is less important than it has ever been. Former BMS<br \/>\nMissionary<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">&nbsp; <\/span>Eric Westwood said this in<br \/>\nhis address as the President of the Baptist Union: \u201cWe must write prayer again<br \/>\ninto the lifestyle of our churches; meaningful prayer, urgent prayer, repentant<br \/>\nprayer, constant prayer, Spirit-led prayer, even sacrificial prayer!\u201d When he<br \/>\nwas General Secretary of the Baptist Union, David Coffey said this. \u201cMany<br \/>\nchurches need to recover this lost principle. Not prayer as a token gesture,<br \/>\nsome spiritual national anthem where we profess loyalty to the King and then<br \/>\nproceed to the real purpose of our gathering. But urgent and dynamic prayer<br \/>\nthat seeks God in such a manner that everyone becomes aware that, unless God<br \/>\nintervenes, we are doomed!<o:p><\/o:p><\/font><\/font><\/p>\n<p><font size=\"3\" face=\"Times New Roman\"><\/p>\n<p><\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 6pt;\" class=\"MsoNormal\"><font size=\"3\"><font face=\"Calibri\">In worship, outreach, ministry, leadership and our prayer<br \/>\nlives \u2013 where does God fit in? <o:p><\/o:p><\/font><\/font><\/p>\n<p><font size=\"3\" face=\"Times New Roman\"><\/p>\n<p><\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 6pt;\" class=\"MsoNormal\"><a name=\"_GoBack\"><\/a><font face=\"Calibri\"><font size=\"3\"><span style='mso-fareast-font-family: \"MS Mincho\";'>A.W.Tozer also wrote, &#8220;The presence is more important than<br \/>\nthe programme!!! Whether it was worship or evangelism or fellowship the Early<br \/>\nChurch never relied on any programme but always gathered together in the<br \/>\ngreater glory of the Presence of God.&#8221; Writing 50 years ago, prophetic<br \/>\nwords fulfilled in so many of the so-called \u201csuccessful\u201d churches today, Tozer<br \/>\nwarns that, &#8220;In these days all too often the programme has been<br \/>\nsubstituted for the presence.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">&nbsp; <\/span>The<br \/>\nprogramme rather than the Lord of glory is the centre of attraction.&#8221;<br \/>\nTozer goes on, &#8220;If we make Christ the supreme and constant object of<br \/>\ndevotion the programme will take its place as a gentle aid!&#8221;<\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/font><\/font><\/p>\n<p><font size=\"3\" face=\"Times New Roman\"><\/p>\n<p><\/font><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0cm 0cm 6pt;\" class=\"MsoNormal\"><font size=\"3\"><font face=\"Calibri\">Here are some of the questions:<br \/>\nWe must make sure that prayer is indeed at the heart of everything we do.<br \/>\nWe must not let charity law and health and safety stand in the way of being the<br \/>\nchurch and taking risks for the gospel. <br \/>\nWe must be prepared to go out on a limb for God, \u201cAttempting great things for<br \/>\nGod and expecting great things from God\u201d (William Carey)<br \/>\nWe must put the spiritual growth of our congregations at the top of our tasks<br \/>\nof ministry \u2013 one way being \u201cMaking Disciples One-to-One.\u201d<o:p><\/o:p><\/font><\/font><\/p>\n<p><font size=\"3\" face=\"Times New Roman\"><\/p>\n<p><\/font><\/p>\n<span><\/div><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p class=\"excerpt\"><span itemprop=\"description\">A.W.Tozer wrote: \u201cIf God had taken His Holy Spirit out of the Early Church, 95% of the activity would have stopped and everybody would have&hellip;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"more-link-p btn-align-center\"><a class=\"blue zoom-btn\" href=\"http:\/\/pbthomas.com\/thoughts\/?p=45\">Read More<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[4],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/pbthomas.com\/thoughts\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/45"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/pbthomas.com\/thoughts\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/pbthomas.com\/thoughts\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/pbthomas.com\/thoughts\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/pbthomas.com\/thoughts\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=45"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"http:\/\/pbthomas.com\/thoughts\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/45\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":46,"href":"http:\/\/pbthomas.com\/thoughts\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/45\/revisions\/46"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/pbthomas.com\/thoughts\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=45"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/pbthomas.com\/thoughts\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=45"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/pbthomas.com\/thoughts\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=45"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}